Circular Argument: If God is Holy and Powerful, How can Evil Exist?



By human logic, the two of the three above statements taken together is mutually exclusive to the third statement. The three statements cannot occur at the same time.

If God is holy and all powerful, then there would be no evil. Of course, everyone agrees there is evil.

Could it be that God is not absolutely holy? Bible absolutely rejects that.

God is not completely powerful hence there is evil? No, God is completely powerful. So are we in a bind? Read on


First: Definition of Evil

When people say "evil", they mean different things. The Hebrew word "ro" has two meanings. One is moral evil, and the other is calamity. We say calamity is evil because of the suffering. When people ask about God and evil, they usually don't care about moral evil. God is not pleased with moral evil, but that is not their concern. Their concern is when suffering falls on them, then they care about the calamity. Hence they ask why God allow for clamity.

Moral Evil

We know the Ten Commandments were from God. God defined what sin is in the Ten Commandments. God created the definition of sin.
Also, in Genesis 2:9, “And out of the ground the LORD God made every tree grow … The tree of life was also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.” God created the tree of knowledge of good and evil. The tree belongs to God, and he created the concept of evil represented by the tree. Adam and Eve simply choose evil. Neither Adam, Eve nor the devil came up with the concept of evil. It was God’s tree.
In summary, moral evil is anything that God define as bad. God said don't do X,Y and Z, then X,Y and Z are evil. Simple as that. If you think further, even the definition of God is already a delineation of good and evil. There is God, so anything that is against God is evil. In another word, you cannot have the definition of God without definition of evil. Evil can be reduced to just a definition, and nothing more. Because God ordain we live in a logical universe, this definition of evil has to be dealt with.

Suffering Evil

Isaiah 45:7 said "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." The word "evil" in Isaiah is more of disaster, and not evil as in knowledge of good and evil. God created the good and also calamity as a result of sin.
Romans 18:8 made it clear that God caused the whole of creation to be subject to "groans and suffers the pains of childbirth" because of man's moral sin. Adam and Eve's sin was a moral sin, but the result was corruption not just of the entire human race, but nature as well. We have death, disease, hurricane, earthquake, floods etc.

Ro used in both tree of good and evil and calamity in Isaiah.


Is God Evil? Absolutely No

God is holy, so he cannot do evil. He will not tempt us with evil. Two main verses states that:

James 1:13–14 “Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am tempted by God”; for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone. But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed.”

1 John 1:5–6 “This is the message which we have heard from Him and declare to you, that God is light and in Him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.”

When God say something is evil, then is evil. Deut 12:31 God said the Canaanites has done abomination to God when they burn their sons and daughter. You remember God also told Abraham to offer Issac as a sacrifice. It was stopped at the last moment, but Abraham had every intention of offering Issaic. Abraham understood whatever God commanded him to do, that is the definition of good. That is faith. God said Abraham had faith, and hence Abraham is considered righteous. God is ruler of heaven, so word to the wise is obey God and you will be fine. The alternative is to fight the God of heaven or hope this entire universe just happened out of thin air. Too crazy to go there! So keep it real, obey God.

Why did Adam and Eve Sin
We like to blame Adam and Eve for the original sin. Had we been there, we would not have sinned! Now that we are all in the muck, is easy to say Garden of Eden was better. Had we never experienced this quagmire and suffering of sin, we would have eaten the fruit as well. Is pretty easy to see all of us at some point would have eaten the fruit given enough time.

Existence of Sin is a Logic Based Issue
Definition of God is obedience. If God said so - then you do. God said if you eat of it, then you will die. That is as far as God went. You can say it is inevitably there would be the next if-then statement. If God said I will die, then surely I must die. But what is death. Man certainly would not know that because he has not seen death before. All of a sudden, you reach a point of faith. All kinds of questions starts to come up including up to will I or will I not die? That then is questioning God's truthfulness. Now you are questioning God's attribute. Your lack of faith caused you to question whether God is the truth or God is a liar. Without knowing it, you are in mortal danger of being on a razor thin fence ready to fall off. I would say even questioning God would be a sin. Jesus said if you think it, is already a sin. Hebrew 11 said it takes faith to please God. Lack of faith is already a sin. Satan then served up a brilliant combination of a seed of doubt and the promise of reward to complete the fall. Satan told Eve you surely shall not die, and your eyes will be open like God. Both statements were violation of faith. But the promise of something better than God's provision pushed Eve over the fence.
In summary, the heart of the definition of God caused man to be in a highly vulnerable state.

Why do We Have to Sin?
Man was made in the image of God, and has unique attributes. That is a double edged sword. Animals never questioned God. Neither were animals made in God's image. With man's logic and imagination, we can go far with our mind. God said during the Tower of Babble when man disobeyed God that there is "now nothing which they purpose to do will be impossible for them." God had to slow down man's technological gain for our own good. We probably would have gotten ourselves in a whole lot of trouble than we are in now with technology. Humans have a gift of an incredible cognative mind. Nothing is impossible. With great power also comes great responsibility. It is inevitable man has to learn how to control his mind, and place a limit between our desires and God's commandment. You can say a great mind is a great gift, but it takes great control. It takes mistake to learn to control a great mind. The learning process can be painful. The greater the gift, the greater the pain to control it.

Earth the Training Ground
Adam and Eve was casted out of the presence of God. That was a actually a blessing in disguise because earth is our training ground. We are in constant battle with wicked forces to show our proven character. During our training here on earth, God gave us some wonderful weapons to use that will be with us forever whereever we may go from here. God gave us Jesus to solve our sin problem. That is our "helmet of salvation" Eph6:17.
Christ came to be with us during our battle to personally train us. His spirit is still here to guide us everyday. He is like the perfect mentor that not only loved us, but died for us. He had to die not just for salvation, but to give us the Holy Spirit as the helper for us. Even better is that the Holy Spirit will be with us forever as in eternity per John 14:16. We do need the Holy Spirit because temptation will come even after Christ's thousand year rule.
We will reign with Christ and have the Holy Spirit forever. That is two out of the three in the trinity. We stand to gain a lot.
When we look at the sin and the plan God already had in place for us. It starts to look like the fall was necessary. In the time scale of eternity, we are all just babies. We were just born in the universe, still in the nursery, not knowing a single thing outside of earth. God said who will he teach his knowledge. They are all babies still drinking milk. So what does God do. He said order on order, order on order, line on line, line on line, a little here, a little there. Is28:9. Our life has to be in order. No crazy druken parties. Our living area clean and promp. We are on schedule and on time. Little by little God teaches us his way. Even the world knows that. When you are in the military, you got to shine your boots. Have physical order, mental order, physical discipline and mental discipline before you go to war. Order on order, line on line.

Why Suffering?
Once we understand this earth is a battlefield. We are training ourselvs to be of good character. Then it follows that we are in God's bootcamp. There is no such thing as a five start hotel bootcamp. In another example, every highschool athlete knows when you are in training, you train rain or shine. You don't lounge by the pool. When you win the championship, then you celebrate. The fallen nature of man and suffering of nature all serves to remind us this is not the place to sit and rest. Don't hold onto anything in this world and keep moving. March on with Christ. You see many on the wayside drinking themselves drunk to pass time. You see others indulge in weath to pass time. Others are taken prisoner by the wicked force. They are held to practice evil against their better senses. When you open your eyes to the purpose of this earth being the training ground, you will have pity on the drunk, the rich and the wicked. They are passing time until the inevitable. The Bible said do not love this world or the things of this world. The earth is a horrible place to stop and rest.

Why One Man, Adam, Condemned All of Us?
Adam was one man, but we are condemned. Why? From our point of view, you can say is just for practical reason. What if many people were born in Garden of Eden. Over time, one person sins, and has to go to earth for training. Jesus has to save that one person. Just as one person is finished, another sins, and Jesus has to save the next person. This has to go on for billions of times. Is better to go thru the training as a class. We sin together, train together and graduate together. After graduation, the classroom is destroyed. When God comes, earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them. Rev 20:11. I imagine that must be a very dramatic scene better than the best of Hollywood as earth is blown into trillion of pieces and vaporized. God wants many graduates from the class. Hence He said be fruitful and multiply. Have many children and train them to know God. God wants many graduates before the classroom is blown up.

Why Be Fruiltful and Multiply
The non-believer (and some Christians) say don't have so many children to save the earth. They want to preserve the classroom and stay here forever. The classroom will be destroyed whether you like it or not. Be fruitful and multiply so you can have company in heaven. As far as the environment goes, order on order. We have to keep it in order, keep it clean, and don't be wasteful. But as Ecc 7:16 said, do not be excessively righteous and do not be overly wise. Don't go overboard as in not having children in violation of God's order to save the earth. People worry about global warming. Believe it or not, is in the Bible, is not going to happen. God's promise has alway been he will do his part regardless of whether we do our part. Gen8:22 after the great flood, God promised:
While the earth remains, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease
We need to keep the environment in order to please God. The non-believer worry whether the earth will be too hot or cold for plants to grow or food to eat. God said you do your part, I do mine. Be fruitful and multipy. I take care of the earth. Note, God never said I will take care of the earth only if carbon tax is implemented. Even if everyone on earth drives a SUV, God's promise will be his promise. But God also said do not put the Lord your God to the test. Deut6:16. So don't drive a coal rolling truck to test God's limit. That should be obvious.

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